From: PeterSaxton 
Newsgroups: uk.finance
Subject: Re: 25 millions claimants details lost
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:08:15 -0800 (PST)
	  
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On 22 Nov, 16:43, M Holmes  wrote:
> Hugh Mann  wrote:
> >> Incompetent IT systems implemented by incompetents because the politicians
> >> and top level civil servants are incompetents who dont know how to properly
> >> procure, design or implement anything.
> > Yep, spot on.  But there's more.  This is going to be an unpopular
> > view, but what about the part played by the Great British Public
> > itself, which through its constant sniping at civil servants as mostly
> > unnecessary, overpaid and under-employed, and its incessant demands for
> > cuts, has led directly to politicians competing to see which party can
> > make the greatest reductions in civil service numbers and take the
> > toughest line on their salaries and conditions of service.
> > The result is junior staff throughout the civil service being put under
> > absurd pressures to cut corners, and managers who have any ability to
> > manage are running to the private sector as fast as their feet can
> > carry them, leaving only the incompetents you mention behind to run the
> > place.
>
> I might agree that there are too many welfare claimants per civil
> servant, but the problem isn't too few civil servants, it's too many
> welfare claimants.
>
> It's absolutely absurd that in a population 0f 60 million there are 25
> million people on welfare. At most we should limit it to the bottom ten
> percent. With the numbers we have, there will be people on welfare who
> are living higher on the hog than some of the poor sods who're going out
> to work to keep them in the style to which they've become accustomed.
>
It's part of moron Brown's plan to be Big Brother and make everyone
dependent on his largess. He wants to raise taxes to 100% of income
and give benefits to everyone he thinks is worthy. The cabinent is
made up of incompetents who know their only hope of progress is to
agree with even more mad ideas.

Peter