From: "rob" 
Newsgroups: uk.finance
Subject: Re: Chip and spin
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:13:51 -0000

>> Anyway it looks as if it's safer to Sign than PIN.  (Latest from the
>> BBC)
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6137788.stm
>>
>> After being kidnapped, the victims were driven to different parts of
>> London during their ordeal. They were cowed into handing over their
>> valuables and pin numbers and many victims were beaten unconscious
>> and left covered in blood.
>
> Would the kidnappers have believed they didn't know/have their PIN?

Don't they read this News group? ;-)