From: "zen83237" 
Newsgroups: uk.finance
Subject: Re: Taxman has high-profile refuseniks in his sights
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 22:03:28 +0100
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"Alan Ferris"  wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:10:44 +0100, "zen83237" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Alan Ferris"  wrote in message
>>news:pisl73pltf69lappsck5v2g2lbtgn7mn0a@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:36:17 +0100, "zen83237" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Alan Ferris"  wrote in message
>>>>news:cnel739hevinj3t7fm8lhedjcu4ipdd4p8@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:03:41 -0700, Kev  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Jun 20, 5:42 pm, Alan Ferris  wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:53:03 +0100, "tim....."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> >Having said that it is not very likely that an accountant
>>>>>>> >would be on the list in the first place.  Who would want
>>>>>>> >to risk a high paid career to save a few quid in tax?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Try those that have been prosecuted for such evasions in the past.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Alan "Ferrit" Ferris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ()'.'.'()
>>>>>>>  ( (T) )
>>>>>>>  ( ) . ( )
>>>>>>>  (")_(")
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Very interesting when this came up on BBC Money Box. HMRC is making
>>>>>>far more money in tax it is not entitled to from non tax payers with
>>>>>>deposits in accounts where tax is deducted at source. What does HMRC
>>>>>>do about this, well practically bugger all. The BBC repesenter
>>>>>>certainly had the Revenue man squirming but he was never the less
>>>>>>unrepentant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not really up to the revenue to determine if the person is domiciled.
>>>>> Amazing you and the BBC want to blame them for the fact that the
>>>>> people should of notified the bank that they were not liable to tax.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alan "Ferrit" Ferris
>>>>>
>>>>The BBC were referring to UK residents with UK bank/building society 
>>>>banks
>>>>were tax is deducted at source, whether the person is liable to pay tax 
>>>>or
>>>>not. Amazing you didn't realise that. The BBC were highlighting the 
>>>>double
>>>>standards of HMRC. They do precious little to make poor hard up 
>>>>pensioners
>>>>aware that they don't actually have to pay any tax as much as HMRC turn 
>>>>a
>>>>blind eye to it.
>>>
>>> If a person is liable to pay tax....what's the problem?  If they are
>>> not...why is its HMRC responsibility to tell the bank that they are
>>> not liable?  Talking about their tax affairs with the bank would
>>> breach all confidentiality...or do you believe they should ignore such
>>> things?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alan "Ferrit" Ferris
>>>
>>But people who don't pay tax in the UK and have deposits in banks/building
>>societies are not eligble to pay the tax but have no say in having it
>>deducted.
>
> They do.
>
>>HMRC keep very quiet about ripping off pensioners and the low paid
>>who are paying tax when they are not required to....or do you believe they
>>should ignore such
>>things?
>
> How are they ripping them off when they do not have to pay it and can
> claim it back?
>
> --
> Alan "Ferrit" Ferris
>
I can't say that I have ever seen anything published anywhere that says 
people who do not pay tax are entitled to interest gross so HMRC do keep 
quiet about it. The acid test is how much tax is HMRC actually collecting 
when they are not entitled to. So you think that pensioners are not being 
ripped off if they don't claim it back because they don't realise that they 
can.

Kevin