From: "nightjar" .uk.com>
Newsgroups: rec.travel.europe uk.finance uk.rec.driving
Subject: Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 19:13:47 +0100


"Graham Murray"  wrote in message 
news:87ps5xki2s.fsf@newton.gmurray.org.uk...
> "Tom Bradbury"  writes:
>
>> Maxwell Keegel, first secretary of the Sri Lankan High Commission in 
>> London,
>> said: "They extract the pin and details from the cards and within minutes
>> this information is sent to LTTE agents who operate in remote parts of 
>> the
>> world, as far away as Thailand and Indonesia.
>>
>> "And the money goes unwittingly from people's accounts and ends up going
>> into the LTTE's arms activities."
>
> Surely it must raise (hopefully very loud) alarm bells if a card is used
> in quick succession in two widely separated locations.

Unless they are daft enough to use the cards immediately, that probably 
won't flag up as suspicious on many cards and, if it does, it will be a 
toss-up as to whether a real transaction or a fraudlent one trips the flag. 
In any case, given enough cards, losing a few to suspicious transactions 
won't matter much.

> As it is claimed
> that the PIN is captured, this implies that the fraud involves
> cardholder present transaction

Except that two of my online customers appear to have had their cards cloned 
as part of this. Fortunately for them, one did not work and the other looked 
wrong, so I investigated it in more depth, decided to refuse the sale and 
wrote to the customers about it - the only reliable information being the 
cardholder's address. In those cases, the cards were used from London.

Colin Bignell