From: Graham Murray 
Newsgroups: uk.finance
Subject: Re: Chip and pin fraud.
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 09:35:24 +0100
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jjamies@tiscali.co.uk writes:

> Thanks, but what I really would like is a Chipped card (cannot be
> cloned - in theory) complete with a photo and verified with a
> signature, definately NO PIN.

It would not be so bad if ATMs required the chip to be there, or if
there was some way that they could tell that the card should have a
chip (other than by looking at the card's magnetic strip) so that a
chip-less card with cloned magnetic strip would not work.