Newsgroups: misc.consumers.house
From: spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
Subject: Re: Buying a house without a buyer's agent - negotiating tips?
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:03:43 GMT

In article <1157339744.542316.89000@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>, texflyer@gmail.com wrote:
>
>Of course, it's completely pointless to bring up commissions if there
>is no prospect of the deal. I am talking about a situation where I am
>prepared to make a realistic offer. Should I reduce this offer
>by 2% or so, explaining to the listing agent that I expect the cut
>to come out of the (non-existent) buyer's agent's portion of the
>commission?  Or should I instead make my "full-price" offer and then
>go down the "oh, by the way..." route?   I understand completely
>that the commission is set in the contract between the seller and
>the listing agent, but it seems that there's gotta be a way to
>negotiate on the 3% that would normally go to a third party.

Apparently, you actually *don't* "understand completely" that the commission 
is set in the listing contract.

You are not a party to that contract.

You are not able to negotiate its terms.

Any such negotiations that might take place do not involve you.
>
>> The only valid issue you as buyer have is how much you are willing to
>> pay for the place period.
>
>And that's the only issue I have.  At the end of the day, I only care
>about the final amount I have to pay; I don't care whether 90%
>of it is the listing agent's commission :)

Nonsense. The entire thread to this point has been about the fact that you 
*do* care how much of the selling price is the agent's commission, and your 
desire to reduce that share so as to reduce the selling price.

-- 
Regards,
        Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.