From: *Good_Virus 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps misc.consumers.house alt.home.repair sci.environment
Subject: Re: Kerry should work at IHOP.  not run for president
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Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:39:56 -0700

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My point is facts. The UN then was pure US. THAT'S a "coalition".

Do you have any understanding as to what Post WW I Germany's motivation
to arm and go on a blitzkrieg fest was?

I'll give you a hint...reaction to a punitive "coalition".

History repeats itself. Surprise?

Now go off on a tangent without addressing the question above. While
you're at it, look into what simultaneously drove Japan to blast out
against the U.S. and U.K. as 1941 came to a close.

Know your *recent* history before you type young ignorant fella. Oh 
that's right, you're a "conservative" ;-)



David Gale wrote:

> "*Good_Virus"  wrote:
> 
>>Between the two attacks upon Iraq (the first one was completely
>>justified, re; Kuwait), U.S. Fighters shot down any and every Iraqi
>>(French Mirage F1's) aircraft on patrol in both the N. and S. "no fly
>>zones" in Iraq. The nation was stripped of its soveriegnty, militarily.
>>Additionally, countless Iraqi radar techs in mobile shacks lost
>>their lives for briefly "painting" any U.S. fighter aircraft. Switch
>>on? In came missiles. U.S. trade sanctions slowly starved Iraq for a
>>decade during this air occupation.
> 
> 
> And your point is...?  Iraq was *forbidden* by the UN to fly in the north
> and south "no fly zones" (as you put it; why the quotes?), which is why they
> were called 'no fly zones'.  The UN expressly said that any violating
> aircraft would be shot down.  Same with the anti-aircraft batteries--they
> were forbidden under the terms of the cease-fire.  The fact that Iraqis died
> does not negate the fact that they were, under Saddam's orders, in direct
> violation of the cease-fire agreement.
> 
> As for the sanctions, they were UN, not US.  And, of course, they starved
> the Iraqi people, while Saddam himself continued to expand his wealth (and
> political allies) through the UN "Oil for Food" scandal.  They were not able
> to bring Saddam into compliance with the UN simply because he didn't care
> about his people, just his own wealth.
> 
> 


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