From: "tim" <520010973502removethis@t-online.de>
Newsgroups: uk.finance
Subject: Re: PIN fraud
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:25:19 +0200


"Rob"  wrote in message
news:taednX-4Ra_9uB_dRVn-uA@brightview.com...
> James wrote:
> > I've declined to have a PIN with the New Type Chip and PIN credit
> > cards. I've opted for a Chip and Signature Card, therefore I can't be
> > held liable for being negligent with a PIN. I won't be able to draw
> > money at cash machines but neither will crooks.
>
> Got sent the PIN yesterday for my new card. It does not have a chip and
the
> letter only talks about cash machine use - which is not what I want to use
> the card for anyway. Filed letter safely with security flap intact - I
don't
> expect any problems, but if there were I could prove that I did not reveal
> the PIN.

You will therefore be disappointed to hear that somebody once tried
that defense (though only at the ombudsman I think).  They lost.

tim



>
> I'm sure these PIN pads at POS have been around for a few years in other
> countries. I was asked in 98/99 if I had a PIN to enter when I bought
petrol
> on CC in Sweden.  There should be quite a bit of european data around on
> what has happened in practice.
>
>
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