From: john boyle 
Newsgroups: uk.finance
Subject: Re: PIN fraud
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 12:34:08 +0100

In message , Tim  
writes
>"James" wrote
>> However if you have a PIN, and your card issuer
>> considers you've been negligent with it - you could
>> get clobbered for the whole cost of the fraud.
>
>Hmmm.  Surely it cannot simply come down to what the *card issuer*
>"considers".

It is.

>There must be recourse to the courts - and then it would be up
>to the *court* to decide - not the card issuer!

Everybody has recourse to the courts about anything.
-- 
John Boyle