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From: brokenklutz@yahoo.com (DIY Klutz)
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair ba.consumers misc.consumers.house misc.consumers.frugal-living alt.tools.repair+advice
Subject: Re: Why would a garage door torsion spring break & is two better than one?
Date: 21 Feb 2004 15:24:57 -0800

(By the way, I always thought the GARAGE DOOR OPENER is what opened the 
door. I never realized it was the torsion spring that opened the door. Duh!)

Now that I know more about the garage door, I can dig deeper into specifics
as to whether or not my existing torsion spring was overextended & whether
or not a torsion spring redesign (dual spring or larger size) is warranted.

The original spring was 33 inches long, 0.250 inch wire, left-hand helix, with
an ID of 1 3/4 inches and an OD of 2 1/4 inches on a 1 inch OD torsion rod.

Q: CAN SOMEONE HELP ME UNFUDDLE THE INFORMATION RELAYED BELOW?

This site http://diygaragerepair.com/sectionalsprings.htm provides a 
table of suggested torsion springs to use with various sized doors:
   
  1 3/4 inch inside diameter          1 3/4 inch inside diameter
  Foam Insulated Sectional Door       Non Insulated Sectional Door (25g)
   8'x6'6"  - 31 3/4 Yellow             8x6'6"  - 26 3/4 Yellow
   8'x7'    - 31 3/4 Yellow             8x7     - 26 3/4 Yellow
   8'x7'6"  - 31 3/4 Yellow             --- --- --- --- --- ---
   8'x8'    - 31 3/4 Yellow             8x8     - 31 1/2 White
   9'x6'6"  - 31 3/4 Yellow             9x6'6"  - 26 3/4 Yellow
   9'x7'    - 31 3/4 Yellow             9x7     - 26 3/4 Yellow
   9'x7'6"  - 31 3/4 Yellow             --- --- --- --- --- ---
   9'x8'    - 31 3/4 Yellow             9x8     - 31 1/2 White
   10'x6'6" - 31 3/4 Yellow             10x6'6" - 28 3/4 Red
   10'x7'   - 31 3/4 Yellow             10x7    - 28 3/4 Red
   10'x8'   - 31 3/4 Yellow             10x8    - 31 Red
   12'x6'6" - 31 3/4 Yellow             --- --- --- --- --- ---
   12'x7'   - 31 3/4 Yellow             12x7    - 28 3/4 Brown
   12'x8'   - 28 3/4 White              --- --- --- --- --- --- 
   14'x6'6" - 28 3/4 Red                --- --- --- --- --- --- 
   14'x7'   - 28 3/4 Red                14x7    - 31 Green
   14'x8'   - 28 3/4 Red                --- --- --- --- --- --- 
   15'x7    - 28 3/4 Red                15x7    - 33 Green
   15'8"x7' - 28 3/4 Red                15'8"x7 - 34 1/4 Gold
   --- --- --- --- --- ---              15x8    - 26 3/4 Yellow (Pair)
   16'x6'6" - 31 1/4 Brown              16x6'6" - 34 1/4 Gold
   16'x7'   - 31 1/4 Brown              16x7    - 34 1/4 Gold
   16'x7'6" - 31 1/4 Brown              --- --- --- --- --- --- 
   16'x8'   - 31 1/4 Brown              16x8    - 26 3/4 Yellow (Pair)
   18'x6'6" - 34 1/4 Gold               18x6'6" - 26 White (Pair)
   18'x7'   - 34 1/4 Gold               18x7    - 26 White (Pair)
   18'x8'   - 26 3/4 Yellow (Pair)      18x 8   - 31 Red (Pair)

 Q1: What does the color mean here (where's the cross reference)?
     (Does the color indicate the wire thickness?)

 Q2: Can it be this simple? (where's the actual door weight)?
     (Although the weight is inherent in the size & insulation; but, 
      don't materials, e.g., steel vs wood make a huge difference?)

However, this chart is all I have so far to determine if the existing 
spring is the correct one for the application (I've no experience).

Given barely insulated garage door is 6 foot 9 inches in height
(which isn't on the charts above) but, interpolated from the chart 
apparently suggests a single torsion spring design of dimensions:
 31 1/4 inches long, Brown (whatever brown indicates here)

I assume this indicates the torsion spring listed as:
 1.75 x 0.234 x 31.25 = $27.60 (LH helix, with cone, + $6.90 shipping)

Given that I replaced the original spring of the dimensions:
 1.75 x 0.250 x 33    = $29.20 (LH helix, with cone, + 7.80 shipping)

I'd have to guess the existing spring (33 incher) is at least adequate.
There's nothing here to suggest a dual spring is warranted though.

Is there a better location on the web for DETERMINING THE CORRECT SPRING?